AUSTRALIAN GOVT v ELON MUSK
Case reference:
BOTTRILL v GRAHAM & ANOR (No 2) [2025] New South Wales District Court no. 221
This is a world-first, cutting-edge court test-case going on in Australia, well below the radar of mass media court reporting (unlike the Tickle v Giggle case, for example).
Its aim or broader agenda?
It's a part of the drive from governments - especially in the European Union - to fight freedom of speech that Elon Musk is promoting by his take-over of Twitter (now called X).
The outcome of this little defamation case in the district court of one state of Australia is known in advance, through circumstantial evidence.
The case will be a win for the plaintiff proxy, and a setback for Elon Musk’s aim of making ‘X-Spaces’ a freedom of expression space for ordinary people of diverse beliefs.
In other words, the purpose of the extraordinarily complex hearings is to establish the world’s first case-law to neutralize Elon Musk’s aim of creating a free-speech audio conversation zone within the Twitter mega-platform.
As speculated here, the outcome is known in advance because of the powerful government interests in controlling the expression of opinion.
This conclusion of known outcome can be inferred from the bias and misrepresentations of the judge as published in the 20 June 2025 decision.
This published decision arose from the interim court hearings held on 22, 29 May, 5 June & 12 June 2025.
X-Spaces was intended to be like a public bar wherein any working-class person was entitled to socialize, have a drink with their friends and engage in ‘pub talk’ i.e., expressing their un-repressed & unbridled opinions.
After this case is concluded, X-Spaces will not be a safe space for ordinary people. It will be like a public bar in East Germany before the fall of the Berlin Wall. There will be government eavesdroppers - or “thought police” - listening in to the robust discussions. They will report to the authorities any instances of “thought-crimes” or the expression of “wrong beliefs”.
Footnotes
From Google AI
X Spaces (formerly Twitter Spaces) are live audio rooms on the X platform (formerly Twitter) for real-time voice conversations, letting anyone host, join, listen, and speak on various topics, functioning like interactive, ephemeral podcasts with hosts controlling who speaks from up to 13 people on stage, while thousands can listen in. Users access it via the X app, starting a Space from their profile icon, and can schedule them, record for later, or have public or private discussions, offering a powerful way to connect authentically.
Questions put to Grok
Is ‘Twitter (X) Spaces’ intended by Elon Musk to be a ‘free speech zone’ as, for example, wherein people are having a casual conversation in a public bar while enjoying a few drinks?
Or, can the host & co-host of an ‘X Spaces’ discussion be sued under traditional defamation law?
In other words, the publisher or interviewer is deemed guilty of defamation, not the person or interviewee on ‘X Spaces’ who actually expressed defamatory beliefs or imputations about a 3rd party.
The 3rd party, who is told by eavesdroppers that something was said about him on the ‘X Spaces’, then initiates a court action for defamation against the host & co-host of the ‘X Spaces’ discussion?
What do you say to that?
Answer from Grok
X Spaces (formerly Twitter Spaces) is designed to facilitate open, public conversations, much like a town square or a casual gathering in a public bar, where anyone can potentially join, listen, or speak.
X emphasizes freedom of expression as a core value, aiming to create a platform for diverse voices and unfiltered dialogue.
However, this comes with built-in moderation tools and requirements to adhere to X's rules on content, meaning it's not an entirely unrestricted "free speech zone"—hosts must promote healthy discussions and can face platform enforcement for violations like harassment or hate speech.
Regarding defamation liability, yes, hosts & co-hosts of an X Spaces discussion can potentially be sued under traditional defamation laws.
In many jurisdictions, including the US, defamation involves making false statements of fact that harm someone's reputation, and liability can extend beyond the original speaker to those who facilitate, republish, or endorse the content (e.g., similar to a publisher, interviewer, or broadcaster).
While the primary responsibility often falls on the person making the defamatory statement, hosts could be targeted if they're seen as enabling or not intervening in the spread of such content—especially since Spaces are public, recordable, and shareable.
Platforms like X are generally protected from liability for user-generated content under laws like Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, but individual users (including hosts) are not.
Success of such a lawsuit would depend on factors like jurisdiction, whether the statement is fact vs. opinion, the plaintiff's status (e.g., public figures face a higher bar), and evidence of harm or malice.
There are no widely reported precedents specifically for X Spaces, but analogous cases from radio interviews, podcasts, or social media live streams show that hosts have been sued in similar scenarios.
—ooOoo—
The plaintiff commenced proceedings for defamation on 10 September 2024 for three podcasts livestreamed on X (formerly Twitter) Space and later posted on the first defendant’s X account on 24 and 29 January 2024 and 3 February 2024. Each of these publications had the same hosts (the defendants), invitee (a person hereafter referred to as “Luke”) and subject matter (although other topics were also discussed).
Reference:
Bottrill v Graham & Anor (No 2) [2025] NSWDC 221 (20 June 2025)
https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/case…
Update - mainstream media - April 15, 2026
‘An absolute farce’: ‘Cooker’ podcaster’s Epstein rant in court
An Aussie conspiracy theorist has gone on an explosive courtroom rant about the number of judges named in the Epstein files as part of a major defamation case, in which a religious member was labelled the leader of an “international paedophile” ring in his podcasts.
news.com.auah. . . you can see why ASIO and David Bottrill want to police new public places like Twitter X-Spaces!
This is the guy David Graham named as the defendent in the abovementioned case.
We summarize that case with the short form title AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT v ELON MUSK
The views and opinions of this Aussie Wollongong concreter are downright dangerous. He's a dissident who believes the government is corrupt.
https://x.com/cookerwatch/status/16347586600764784…
Twitter: Cookerwatch
> Guru just went on a live and blamed me and others for his woes. You are an idiot Guru. All I or anyone else ever do is record you and play you back. You just don't like what you see in the mirror. This rant had to be heavily edited as 50% of it was homophobic trash. FTR I am… pic.twitter.com/axgjauJtxJ [https://t.co/axgjauJtxJ] — Cookerwatch (@cookerwatch) March 12, 2023 [https://twitter.com/cookerwatch/status/1634758660076478466?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw]
TwitterThis media report on the concreter from Wollongong is misleading. It was not David Graham who allegedly defamed David Bottrill, it was the person he interviewed on the X-Spaces, namely a person the published decision referred to as "Luke"
‘Serious harm’: ‘Cooker’ podcaster hit with defamation trial | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site for latest headlines
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-la…
‘Serious harm’: ‘Cooker’ podcaster hit with defamation trial
A well known Aussie conspiracy theorist, who allegedly falsely accused a religious order member of “drinking human blood”, is set to face a major defamation trial over the claims.
news.com.au