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Real Philosophy is science

3 Mar '21 12:12

A wise old professor of philosophy defined philosophy for me as "The search for knowledge and understanding of reality using a scientific instrument called logic".

Of course, that definition is entirely repugnant to "scientists" and "philosophers" of today even though it is the only definition I've ever heard that is inherently consistent and coherent.

To illustrate my assertion let's compare and contrast speculation and assessment... ideological fancies and methodical examination... rationalism and the principles of logic.

Logic is not some magical “stuff” that can magically produce or rationalise a deceptively plausible “answer” to any specious proposition or question. Logic is the scientific rules for effective, coherent, valid reasoning. Reasoning is the associative extrapolation by deduction or induction of ideas. By itself reason can start from any impossible notion and proceed, by faulty method, to just about any “conclusion” desired by the conjurer. Logic is the scientific method that constrains reasoning to reality,

The principles of logic are based on the "law of non-contradiction"; essentially, a proposition and its contradiction cannot both be "true". Any logical assessment must be based on certainly known premises, and a contradiction of any of those premises renders the "argument" invalid and absurd. A certainly known or "self evident" premise is a commonsense observation where the only alternative to the proposition is its contrary and which contrary is self-contradictory and thus absurd. A couple of primordial examples will do to illustrate: "I exist" and “the whole is greater the part” and "a thing that does not exist cannot cause itself to exist" and “a thing cannot not be what it is”.

All science is composed of sub-disciplines under the great umbrella of philosophy; the great desire for knowledge and understanding of reality. A physicist can gain a PhD... which means "Doctor of Philosophy". Philo-sophy etymologically means "the love of wisdom"... that is, the desire for, and to spend oneself to get, the right answer. Of course, the law of non-contradiction always applies. The "answer" cannot be "right" if it is self-contradictory or contradictory of certainly known premises.

The application of this logical procedure leads directly to what's known as a "scientific method" which starts with an observation with the implied questions (how or why is this so) which proceeds to possible explanations (hypotheses) to be tested with logical congruity to certainly known facts, observation and experiment. Any real contradiction to any of which renders the hypothesis a "dud" or failure. This is the requirement for test ability or falsifiability... a proposition that can't be tested (with the science of logic) is not an hypothesis, it is a mere speculation with no claim to being any kind of science. As Karl Popper so elegantly put it "It's not only not right; it's not even wrong". An hypothesis that passes scientific testing is then called a theory; that is, it is considered to be a possible, or even likely, explanation for the observed phenomenon.

Rationalism, on the other hand, starts with the assumption of an ideal then proceeds to try to find plausible justifications and excuses for the assumptions. The only judgment of the "rightness" or "wrongness" of the excuses proffered is whether or not they suit the ideology assumed. Logic or facts have nothing to do with it... they are irrelevant to the purpose. The "truth" is entirely determined by marketability and convenience. Quite the opposite of a "scientific method" and it is the illogical mainstay for the ideology of Relativism.

Now, let's focus this on some fundamental fashionable fancies purporting to be "science" and "philosophy".

Just about all the "scientistic" dogmas of ideological Materialism and Relativism don't come anywhere near the the most basic requirements of science or a scientific method. They can only qualify as fantastic superstitions rationalised by speculative interpretations of carefully selected and censored observations.

It is almost universally assumed that practically everything that exists is spontaneously produced from a lesser, or no, antecedent. A lovely speculation that might be an hypothesis if it it were not demonstrably absurd.

I refer particularly to the almost universal supposition of "Evolution"; the most perverse and harmful superstition ever to destroy mind and culture. It is demonstrably and certainly an impossible speculation. There is not the slightest chance of it being in any way possible unless all the relevant, well known, easily demonstrable Natural Laws and logic do not apply.

Logically (philosophically) it is impossible because a thing (like a system) that does not exist cannot cause itself to exist, and the corollary that an effect cannot be greater than its cause.

Mathematically, the probability that even one simple protein (a naturally unstable complex molecule) could form by random accident is practically zero. Even the simplest live organism is composed of a concert of very complex and specialised proteins... that never, ever, could happen by random accident or series of accidents .

Physical (empirical) science also prohibits "Evolution" because it is directly contrary to the well known, intuitively and universally acknowledged, easily demonstrable, Natural Law we call entropy.

Entropy.

The best (most succinct and precise) definition (description) of entropy is as it occurs in the "Second Law of Thermodynamics"; "All ordered systems, left to themselves, tend toward maximum randomness and lowest energy (potential or differential)". That means that order naturally tends to degenerate into randomness (disorder) and energy potential tends to dissipate into a uniformity without potential.

Because energy must be dissipated in the establishment and maintenance, or sustaining, of an orderly system some con men with an ideology to sell will try to pretend that the energy consumed in the process creates the order. A sly mental trick.

But a sly mental trick is not science. Almost all of what is implied to be “philosophy” these days is not connected to reality by unassailable self-evident premises and methodical (logical) reasoning. Modern “philosophy” is a gimmick for selling ideological Snake Oil. Remember, I have defined philosophy as “ the search for knowledge and understanding of REALITY using a scientific instrument called logic”.

It is evident from the previous activities of the enemies of Reason that they will seek to avoid the implications of the science of logic by trying to surreptitiously degrade and ignore the principles of any scientific method by cunning and deceit.

I am not aware of any ideologically, morally, perverse institution that originated in ordinary people going about their ordinary lives. Every political, ideological perversity is a product of privileged, detached, occult “academic” types with a well known marketing strategy; befuddle them with rhetoric and repetition. Ivory towers are fortifications designed to prevent the ingress of commonsense and logic.

Commonsense is the foundation and preservation of science and culture.

Real science (physical and metaphysical) is founded on the commonsense laws of logic.

All the laws of logic are specific applications of the fundamental Law of non contradiction.


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Oldavid
7 Mar '21 06:39

I think your comment is pretty perspicacious and thank you for it. I don't have time to reply in detail just now but I'll make a general comment.


The topics for your "ethics essays" seem to imply the assumption that "philosophy" is just speculations about speculations; that there are no knowable absolutes re the nature and purpose of life and knowledge... that "reality" is a fuzzy by-product of the dialectical competition between ideas.


I hope to have more on the topics later. Kind regards.

TheRevolutiLeni
TheRevolutiLeni
4 Mar '21 04:33

Re: "I refer particularly to the almost universal supposition of "Evolution"; the most perverse and harmful superstition ever to destroy mind and culture. It is demonstrably and certainly an impossible speculation. There is not the slightest chance of it being in any way possible unless all the relevant, well known, easily demonstrable Natural Laws and logic do not apply."


I am happy to disagree with the proposition that Evolution is just a superstition. However, the reason why is based on how Evolution appears to be defined.


Your story states:

"Logically (philosophically) it is impossible because a thing (like a system) that does not exist cannot cause itself to exist, and the corollary that an effect cannot be greater than its cause.

Mathematically, the probability that even one simple protein (a naturally unstable complex molecule) could form by random accident is practically zero. Even the simplest live organism is composed of a concert of very complex and specialised proteins... that never, ever, could happen by random accident or series of accidents."


Why does Evolution require self-administered creation?

Evolution (contrary to popular, Darwinian in particular, belief) occurs due to factors external to the "thing" in question. These factors can be referred to as the environment. Environment in this case is not limited to ideas such as pollution, littering, etc. but applies to every single influence which comes from that which is not the "thing". This can mean toxins, it can mean other living entities, it can mean habitat of the "thing" relative to water location, sun shine levels, it can be consequences of food consumed, it can even be the influence of thought itself, along with electromagnetic fields, etc, etc.


I see no reasoning or logic to determine that evolution does not occur. However, having said that, what I do see is "scientific" organisations trying to use their own form of Evolution to discredit the ideas found within religion. As usual, there appears to be a two sides only approach to this arguement i.e. either there is a God or there is Evolution and never are we to suggest the truth may lay somewhere in the middle.

Frankly, from the information and thought processes I've found/done I'm inclined to feel the information within the realm of religion is more accurate, however, there is no human type figure up in the clouds who calls himself God.

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Oldavid
4 Mar '21 05:36

Heh heh! I'm not new to this business. Stick around, Leni, there's much more to this question than the "establishment" wants you to know.


In the meantime you might be amused by this, almost daily, send up of the floundering excuses offered by the mainstream:

https://crev.info/

Or, if you're inclined to want a more "in depth" examination of the many issues involved flick through this lot:

http://www.trueorigin.org/camplist.asp

There's lots more from simple to profound. If you run out of material give us a hoy.

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Oldavid
4 Mar '21 04:01

Thanks for the comment, Gassy.

The first forum I joined after becoming computerised would not accept a contraction of my real name so I chose Oldavid and have been him always and everywhere ever since with the sole exception of the Perth Patriots, and that only because their registration process got me confused.


As for what's my purpose: I have been involved, on and off, with various reform campaigns since the 1970's and have been dismayed by the level of corruption and ignorance high and low. Practically everyone is impervious to the idea that reality is transcendent, objective, knowable and not at all the product of competing opinions and conveniences.

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Chris of Masters
3 Mar '21 18:30

Looking on the events of last year, It's obvious the logic plays no part in reality....

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